“I said, but that’s not what I have an interest in doing.

I’d like to play lawyers.

I’d like to play cops.

I’d like to play doctors.”

“I was OK with never being uber-famous or uber-wealthy.

It’s just not why I came into the business.

And quite frankly, I’m still not either of those things.

And I had been typecast and enjoyed being typecast in those roles.

“When you have more women in positions of power, you’ll see greater roles for women.”

“I often say to people, when you turn on the television, what do you see?

The overwhelming majority of what you see are not people of color, are not women of color.

You have a few roles here, a few roles there, but they’re still rarefied opportunities.”

And of course, we talked about her current obsession.

Listen to my entire conversation with Michele on Spotify orApple Podcasts.